While the House burns like Atlanta . . .

UPDATED BELOW: From Forbes magazine this morning:

But a new survey of 1,976 registered voters finds that only 33 percent believe that the health law should be repealed, delayed, or defunded. 29 percent believe that “Congress should make changes to improve the law,” 26 percent believe that “Congress should let the law take effect” and see what happens, and 12 percent believe that the law should be expanded. The bottom line? Voters are skeptical that Obamacare will live up to Democrats’ hype. But they also believe that it should be given a chance to succeed.

Universal health care (which Obamacare is most assuredly not – at least not yet) has been a political objective, indeed a platform goal, of the Democratic Party  since Truman (Teddy Roosevelt and Nixon liked it too). So it has been a stated goal of at least half this nation for decades. It is now the law, as passed by the Congress, signed by the President, upheld by the US Supreme Court, and reaffirmed by the American people when they re-elected the President who sponsored it. That’s exactly the way our Federal government was designed to work.

The House GOP is not pursuing the will of the American people, they are pursuing a Party objective. They forget that they are only one of three branches of government (and only half of that branch!). 

Our Founders knew well to build in protections against a tyranny of the minority. UPDATE: commenter Alan Scott points out – correctly – that I am wrong here. Our Founders built in protections against a Tyranny of MAJORITY. My bad.

The minority half of one branch of our government is on the wrong side of this.

27 responses to “While the House burns like Atlanta . . .

  1. My perception over time is that the majority of the body politic in this country vote with their reptilian brains and not their cerebrums. Thus, people are against the ACA just like they were against Social Security and Medicare at first (yes, really!). The Tea Party are apparently unaware of this because it’s they are cementing in the public consciousness the GOP’s identity as the Party Of NO. unaware of this because it’s they are cementing in the public consciousness the GOP’s identity as the Party Of NO.

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  2. In better news, I’m getting ready to work massive amounts of overtime this week as we continue to sign up new members on our exchange plans. The circus in Washington DC will make for good entertainment for me to listen to on my headphones as I get to work implementing the new health care system *big shrug*

    I should add that this is good news for the people who are going to get insurance coverage…I’m not necessarily looking forward to the long days I’ll be pulling at the office, haha.

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    • Hang in brat – it’s cool that you’re on the inside. You’ll be my source going forward!

      Jon Stewart (or Colbert?) last night said the exchange sites crashing from the surge of traffic was proof that Americans don’t want Obamacare.

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      • Ha! I’m probably too much of a peon around here to be a good source. But the one thing I can tell you is that the ACA is in full swing already. The circus in DC is amusing, but nothing more than that.

        The explanation I heard Rush offer today for the website success is that everybody was forced to go there by the evil gov’t….which must be why they were all so eager to sign up on the very first day 😉

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  3. Perhaps you could explain what the tyranny of the minority means. My understanding of the Constitution is the opposite. The founders feared that at various times a temporary majority would misuse it’s power to oppress those minorities that were it’s political enemies. Like the power of the IRS.

    The Constitution has protections built into it to protect minorities from the tyranny of the majority. These all rest on a Supreme Court that has actually read the document. Obviously Justice Roberts has not.

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    • Oh dear, Alan, you’re right again. I have it upside down. Does your comment about Roberts mean that you think he should have looked at polls in making the decision?

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      • Ms. Holland,
        You are very gracious to confirm my reading of Constitutional intent.
        As far as Roberts, no not the polls, the Constitution. You might admit that his words justifying his ruling were convoluted, to put it kindly.

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        • Alan, I always figure the final word on the Constitution is the Supreme Court. That’s why they exist. That’s their job. The Court said Commerce Clause, so be it. There is no higher authority in our country.

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          • They didn’t say Commerce Clause because there’s enough right-thinking judges on the SCOTUS – at the moment – to not say that the Feds can tell people what to purchase. They classed it as a tax instead, which was a failure on Robert’s part, one that I’m confused by and a little suspicious of.

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            • Suspicious of? You think he’s got a conflict of interest or is he a closet Kenyan Muslim Socialist?

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              • No; I think that it’s quite possible that Obama’s people “got to him” and coerced him into that particular decision. It most likely wouldn’t be the first time that a SCOTUS justice was coerced by the Executive.

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                • jonolan, that’s an entirely new charge. I’ve never heard it before. Never. so how does a President of the United States ‘get to’ the Chief Justice of the United States? Blackmail???

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                • Could be, Moe. It could also be just coercing him through “nudging” the media to paint him as a villain if he doesn’t comply, much as Obama did during a previous SOTU speech.

                  You’ve got to remember, Moe, that – leaving what a POTUS can do via his various “goons” in the IRS, NSA, and DoJ – the active word in bully pulpit is “bully” and this, due to a tamed and complicit media, is never more true than it is now.

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                • jonolan, for all our disagreements I usually respect your reasoning. But this one screams nonsense to me. Sorry. Presidents don’t control media. And Chief Justices are NOT thin-skinned types who would ever take personal popularity into consideration. Certainly not Roberts.

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            • And do remember jonolan – I predicted he would uphold it – based on respect for the legislative role.

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  4. Put a mic in front of the GOP and they will answer questions about polls by not answering the questioned asked and filling up space with rhetorical red meat.

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  5. Polls are fairly meaningless when used to plot a broader opinion, Moe. Here’s a page with a bunch of ObamaCare polls linked from it. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

    As you can see, they don’t conflict with Forbes’ poll, but they do change the bigger picture when you piece their specific questions and answers together and add in the Forbes poll.

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  6. I’ll counter your comment jonolan with this…..
    The Healthcare Exchanges start with Heavy Demand….
    http://www.politicaldog101.com/2013/10/01/the-healthcare-exchanges-start-with-heavy-demand/

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    • Mandatory enrollment will do that, so will wanting to get coverage. Neither is more that an interesting data point, as were the polls both Moe and I linked to.

      Overall, Obamacare is quite unpopular with Americans. Contrariwise, parts of it seem popular. Hell! I even like some small portions of it.

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    • james, I don’t know hwy people are surprised by the online surge. The need has always been there . . . .jonolan says it’s cuz it’s mandatory, but actually many young people – at least in this first year – will probaly just pay the fine for not enrolling. It’s a lot cheaper. It’ll get pricier for them in their second, third years etc. But also knowing that they can’t be turned down for pre existing may also make them think they’re okay without. What they don’t realize is that there’s an enrollment period; they won’t be able to sign up if they get sick in March – they’ll have to wait till much later in the year.

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  7. The truth will set you free……

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  8. The GOPer’s BS is showing…..

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