Bill Moyers talks to smart people

M y brother was here last week. We talked a lot about many things. He’s a fine conversationalist he is. And I’m not bad, so we had a good time. But he’s got an edge on me with the depth and breadth of his knowledge. And personal experience wtih much of which he speaks.

He’s a PhD in Philosophy, a former priestย who studied texts in Latin and Hebrew. He’s a father and a grandfather. He’s a sailor and a superb do-it-yourselfer (a longtime fantasy of mine is to have him prisoner for a week in my house with his tools and no books. That would be sweet.)

He’s a lecturer, a college professor, a prolific author and travels extensively to meetings and workshops here and in Europe and in Africa. I’ve no idea how he has time to do any of these things. It’s annoying.

One of the things we talked about was labor and labor unions. I said I thought that the union model, as practiced today,ย has failed. It was the right model for a long time but is the wrong model for these times and needs to be reinvented.

He disagreed. But here’s some evidence that, for maybe the first time ever, because some very smart people are saying the same thing, I was right and he was wrong.

The relevant discussion is the first 20 minutes or so here from yesterday’s Bill Moyers’ show. It’s fascinating.

19 responses to “Bill Moyers talks to smart people

  1. My sister has on my case to check out Moyers the old LBJ staff guy….



    • He’s great, dog. I’m a long time fan. Your sister is right!

      The right of course hates him. If you can (at the library?) locate the multi part series he did on PBS years ago with Joseph Campbell call about myths and religion. I think it was called The POwer of Myth.


  2. There’s no rivalry like sibling rivalry. Glad you won one.


  3. He sounds like an interesting talk ๐Ÿ™‚

    CNN went after the Koch’s in a long segment the other day, and now Sorkin’s “Newsroom” wages an all-out war against the Koch’s and Tea Party (episode 3).

    Is something happening?


    • It may have been the strongest episode yet. I wish it were on a major network so more people could see it but then, no major network would dare broadcast it.


      • Exactly. Just like the discussion the top folks have in the show.. You don’t go after the big fish without punishment.

        But it was a remarkable sudden interjection into real life current politics and a strong activist turn – playing into the fall elections and campaign finance issues.


    • Haven’t watched the third one yet – I found the first two a bit too much style and too little substance, so I was hoping it would get better. Sorkin does dialogue like no one else, but so far it’s like it’s been all dialogue.


      • Same here – I found it plunging quickly into soap opera and scandal,
        but then it turned into something very different. Not sure what to call it really, this mix of reality and fiction – when they talk about Kochs, Tea Party, 112th Congress, Bachmann..

        It’s sort of like the network Sorkin would’ve wanted to be real, but have to make up instead.

        But it is already a real (though small) force in contemporary politics.


      • And btw; I’ve just set up a new blog about stuff I’m watching:

        There will probably be more about Newsroom after this.


        • Ah, you of the endless blogs ๐Ÿ™‚ I will be sure to check this one out, too!


          • lol yes ๐Ÿ˜€
            The first one just grew too mixed.. with too different crowds… so now it’s more like one blog one topic….
            And with very different posting habits.. this last one is a couple of times a month maybe.. but we’ll see ๐Ÿ™‚


            • Hey, rather than commenting on it I should be following that blogging plan myself. My blog is a total mixed bag ๐Ÿ™‚


              • Sounds good! It’s a trade-off between having one “personal blog” with all sorts of things – and many “topic” blogs I think, but multiblogging is more easy once you get used to it IMO.

                And you might post more freely once you’ve established an audience that have signed up for a certain kind of topic. I grew increasingly uneasy with mixing photos with political posts f.ex – as the latter is so contentious at times.


                • I can see how that would be a problem. It’s similar to posting about politics on Facebook…it can be fun, or it can turn into an unexpectedly ugly debate.


                • Yep. A photoblog can be open for all – but political sites needs some moderating.

                  And besides, you get sick of politics at times, so it’s nice to be able to shut it out – to recover ๐Ÿ™‚


        • Okay. This is a brilliant idea. And I’ll be there – I think you and I began our acqaintance when we found we were reading the same things!


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