Why we’re fat: it started a long long time ago. And never let up.

18 responses to “Why we’re fat: it started a long long time ago. And never let up.

  1. It’s like some of the old cigarette ads, too. Makes you wonder what kind of BS they’re feeding us now.


    • I remember all the ‘the cigarette recommended by more doctors” ads. For real.


    • shortbus-wookie

      It is in the chicken (and their eggs) Pork and Beef (and milk.) It is the growth inhibitors that they lie about. If they can get animals to mature faster, they can be ‘harvested’ faster. Then we humans eat the ‘hormones’ in the meat and we ‘grow.’ This is a fact, I know it, because since I reduced how much of this things I consume, or come up and pay the ridiculous price for organic, I’ve lost some weight.

      It is a lot like how they said DDT was okay, and only hurt bugs.


      • When I was a kid we didn’t know about the dangers in DDT – the town used to send trucks around to spray it. I remember running behind the truck – in the ACTUAL CLOUD – with the other kids. It was a game. And of course we played on those lawns and rolled around.

        As for the growth hormones! Those scare me to death. Young women today are getting such a load of estrogen that they’re starting menses a full five years earllier than 100 years ago. (And we wonder why kids want to have sex so young. Duh.)

        I changed my diet completely a year ago – beef maybe once every few months (cuz I do love a good steak), chicken/fish a few times a week. NO sugar. Pretty much nothing white or processed – I make exceptions and occassionally have some pasta or bread. Loads of vegs and fruit – lucky I like vegs. I’d like to buy some at organic market but man are they ever expensive


  2. Reblogged this on The American Liberal Journal and commented:
    First of all, I am so happy to be able to recommend Moe and the more-than-interesting and highly-readable blog, “Whatever Works.”
    “Whatever Works” is fast becoming one of my favorites and I am so honored to have the ability to re-blog this post about health issues.
    When I was a kid back in the 1940s and 50s, my Family Doctor actually prescribed menthol cigarettes to help with symptoms associated with respiratory ailments. (He was a smoker himself.)
    When I was in school (1944-56) it was considered as “Healthy” for a guy to be “Huskey” (Overweight and muscular to the max.)
    Who really knows what to believe anymore?
    Media are very powerful things and people can be awfully accepting and gullible sometimes.
    I have, somehow made it to 74-years of age and I don’t much care what other people tell me anymore – – – I am old enough and crotchety enough to do as I damned well please – – – for better or worse as it were.
    I do not recommend my personal course of action and to choices to others however because everyone’s need and tolerances are different.
    Trust your own sawbones if you are lucky enought to be able to afford one.
    But I do appreciate this article on “Whatever Works.”
    Thanks, Moe!


    • John – you and I are close in age, so I remember it all too. When I was in grade school, our dentist always had a cigarette going when he was working on us. Swear to Elvis, it’st true!

      I smoked for 50 years – quit five years ago. Feeling fine, but every now and again, I find myself reaching for one! I guess I’ll never get over that.


  3. Since every decade – a higher frequency these days – what is “good” for me and what is “bad” for me switches places, I just ignore it and go about my business.

    And, when it come to smoking or drinking, always remember that the government needs “harm” to justify their Sin Tax. I’m NOT saying that smoking or excessive drinking isn’t physically harmful. I’m saying that, since the government has a vested interest in tax revenue, you can’t trust the data since the government provides a LOT of research grants.

    The Japs smoke much more than we do per capita, yet have much lower lung cancer rates, as do the Native Americans.

    Blacks have higher rates of heart problems and diabetes when living on a “normal” American diet.

    The list goes on, and on, and on…


    • Governments have always had ‘sin taxes’. Once I imagine it was a way to disincentivize the behavior but now it’s of course a necessary part of revenue. And yeah, I don’t expect that to ever see them go away.

      Data? You think the government is the only source of data??? The info, the measurements, the outcomes are everywhere and from all over the world. I recommend you read a book called “Sugar Blues” by William Duffy. It was written in 1975 and includes a fascinating history of sugar. The devastating effects of sugar don’t fall into the category of ‘okay today, bad tomorrow’. It’s always been bad. But we love it, so what ya’ gonna’ do!


      • I’ve read it, Moe. I’ve also read many later works that refute most, though not all, of Duffy’s medical findings. Which to believe?

        The best that my research can tell me is that it’s best to eat as varied of a diet as possible, base it on how it’s affecting your own body, and don’t stress over it.


        • “Everything. And everything in moderation”. A rule for life from, I think, the Jesuits.


          • Nope. The oldest reference if from Socrates, who credited Chilo, one of the Seven Sages, with it. It was also on the wall of Apollo’s temple at Delphi.

            Variations were also expounded upon by Aristotle.

            After that, it reemerges is one of Terence’s works, specifically Andria, written in the 2nd Century BC.

            For myself, I prefer Oscar Wilde’s variant, “Everything in moderation, including moderation.”


            • You are an interesting man jonolan – for a libertarian that is 😆

              Of course, I should also remember “there is nothing new under the sun”.

              Like myths, romances: I sometmes think there are only twelve stories our species tells; we tell them over and over and reframe them and expand them . . . but at their core, they’re the same stories.


  4. I would never dream of giving cola to a baby. Advertizers have no scruples, I swear. Of course, in fifty years, future generations will look at today’s ads the same way.


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