The next Friedman Unit in Iraq should be interesting

I posted this morning about Turkey’s military movement into Northern Iraq which was followed today by Obama’s abrupt announcement that all US troops (not just combat troops) would be out of Iraq by the end of this year (although this is always a bit confusing since the Embassy will have 16,000 personnel).

And now, it seems that we closed the last US norther base in Iraq yesterday.

U.S. shutters northern HQ in Iraq

BAGHDAD — The U.S. military closed the second of its three regional headquarters in Iraq on Thursday, redeploying 750 soldiers, consolidating command of nationwide operations under a single Army unit and maintaining a rapid pace of withdrawal 10 weeks before the expiration of its security agreement with Baghdad.

I doubt very much that these are unrelated events. I just had the news on and it’s all chitterjaberchatter about the troop withdrawal announcement. But I haven’t heard anything about the Turkish troops.  But the story in the Washington Post notes that:

As the U.S. military carried out its deactivation ceremony, 10,000 Turkish soldiers engaged in a ground offensive against Kurdish rebels who had attacked border towns Wednesday, the Turkish military said.

10 responses to “The next Friedman Unit in Iraq should be interesting

  1. AS I mentioned over at the Dog Moe….

    The darwdown seems to be a good thing….
    But the US WILL stage a good amount opf troops in Kuwait…..
    And don’t be surprised about two things….
    One…..If ALL the troops aren’t gone by Jan 1, 2012
    Two…..Iraq somehow cahanges it’s mind and will grant immunity for a few thousand American troops afterall….

    Last…..I cautiosly optomistci that the crazies over there won’t overrun the place 10 minutes after the last US Marine lives and before the ‘advisors’ arrive on the scene


  2. changes it mind…sorry….


  3. The Kurds were instrumental in helping the US fight the Iraqi insurgency. It looks like once again the US is abandoning those who stuck their necks out to help us, much like the US abandoned the South Vietnamese. The only good news is that the peshmurga will run circles around Turkey’s flatfooted battalions.


    • Problem with Kurdistan is that, much like with the Afghanis, we can’t stop history. This fight has been going on since Attaturk. Anyway, this is the end game signed by Bush in ’08. I think both presidents intended a small force to remain (5k?) but the Iraqi gov’t won’t permit it under conditions we could accept. We’ve been bragging that Iraq is sovereign for a few years now. And so it is. In any case, the State Dept via the Ambassador will be overseeing 16,000 US personnel and contractors. And like james said, we’ll be in Kurwait.

      Vietnam? Abandoned? After 15 years? What was more important – saving the wildly corrupt SV gov’t or our own nation which was being torn apart by that war? And aren’t we friendly with Vietnam these days? That ‘war’ was unwinnable unless we were willing to kill hundreds of thousands more Vietnamese (or use nuclear as Westmoreland wanted). Sean, the American people wouldn’t have stood for that.

      And yeah, the peshmerga are not to be trifled with. But Turkey does have hardware. I’d hate to see another fight there. It may be that htis is just a show of force, which they have to do every now and again.


  4. The United States has supplies the Turks with advanced fighter a/c and weapons…

    Sean you are correct that we have supported the Kurds because they are actually the most stable region in Iraq….

    But make np mistake they DO feel that they should NOT be a part of Iraq or Turkey….

    You finish one war….
    Another Civil War breaks out….
    Who says War isn’t natural?


    • james – there could be a civil war inside Iraq in addition to any fighting in Kurdish regions. Plus we leave Iraq with a Shia government, already aligned iwth Iran.


  5. supplied….Gosh I can’t spell!


  6. We are lucky, by accident of birth (time and place) to not be the ones facing 10,000 Turkish troops. Once again, we have supplied both sides, fueled the fires, and then exited.
    I don’t suggest we stay, I suggest we quit toying with ‘nation building’ at any time or place.


  7. I don’t suggest we stay, I suggest we quit toying with ‘nation building’ at any time or place.

    I agree. Now – tell that to the Republicans who want us to take an active role in re-building Libya. By which they mean, make sure US corporations will have boundless opportunities to pillage and rape some more (economically only, of course).


    • Chappy, assume you heard Lindsay Gramahm’s words on the subject? He said if we’d been there with troops on the ground, we would have built the infrastructure we need to, ahem, ‘do business’. Or something like that. Breathtaking.

      After all, we did such a good job in iraq that they have less electircal power than they did before the war. We never got it successfully restored.


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