I’m embarrassed

from Political Irony this morning:

Now all countries with a AAA credit rating have universal health care.

 

18 responses to “I’m embarrassed

  1. Why are YOU embarrassed?
    This Congress doesn’t care…

    The American thing is …..
    ‘You’re on your own’….
    The Poor, the Sick….
    And
    The Different skin colour issue are ‘THERE” problems..
    Not OUR problems……

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    • ‘You’re on your own’….

      You know, that just because I don’t like it that the government takes your money and gives it to me doesn’t mean that you can’t simply give your money to me on your own.

      Why do you Liberals feel that the only way to justify personal charity, or validate the inner Noble, is to have the government do it for you?

      Why do you hate the “You” SO very very much?

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      • [have the government do it for you?]

        Bit of a flaw there pino. Giving isn’t an ‘either or’, it’s an ‘and’ – via govmint and via my own slim wallet. Just like all the other liberals. Does govmint do our volunteer work for us too?

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        • Bit of a flaw there pino. Giving isn’t an ‘either or’, it’s an ‘and’ – via govmint and via my own slim wallet.

          But you don’t wanna give unless I give as well. For example, take Buffet, he won’t contribute to higher taxes unless all other rich people do as well. And for many on the Left, they aren’t giving to begin with. They’re only taking.

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          • pino – whether you give or not means nothing to me; I want to give and I want my country to give. Those are my own ethical values. And Buffet, far as I know he’s been advvocating for higher taxes for years and other megarich people have been advocating for lower taxes. So be it. Meanwhile, Buffet has arranged his estate so his children get only a certain amount (a few million) each – the rest goes to a charitable trust or outright donations. Plus he’s joined with Bill Gates to pledge half his fortune to that new foundation. They’re going around the world trying to convince other megarich to do the same.

            What’s with this ‘the left aren’t giving, only taking”? Where does that come from? I’m one of four siblings – three liberals and one dittohead. Three of us are acitve volunteers and regular donors – my very wealthy conservative brother isn’t. He does however manage to brag that for the last decade he’s managed to pay no income taxes.

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      • Why do you Liberals feel that the only way to justify personal charity, or validate the inner Noble, is to have the government do it for you?

        I would venture that Liberals tend to have a reality-bias. The downgrade is not such a big thing, but it adds yet another twig onto the mountainous pile of evidence that equality, redistribution of wealth and altruism are all good ideas and should be priorities in society. Or do you like the “ME FIRST” attitude that is so prevalent in the US and where it has taken your nation?

        Dogmatic belief dies a slow death and I’m almost certain you’ll bring out the evilz of socialism and *gasp* redistribution of wealth by the guv’emnt! Fine. But keep firmly in mind that the ethic of the greedy individual without the interference damn guv’ment benefits those who are already wealthy and powerful and if you think that they are going to let you have your turn at the table… *sigh*. It reminds of a conversation that Gandalf and Saruman had about joining with Sauron.

        Saruman: “Embrace the power of the Ring, or embrace your own destruction!”
        Gandalf: “There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power.

        The forces that (have) are restructuring society also will not willing to share power. It is a gift to them, the atomized citizenry raging against the government, they cheer and watch while the lower classes, through gratuitous competition and slavish devotion to nebulous concepts such as the “free market”, are cutting their own throats in a futile attempt to join the elite club. It works for them, hence the reason why you have the wealthy supporting the likes of the Tea Party; because it is a direct benefit to them.

        I guess the real question is how much more evidence is required before enough people get the notion that their are other viable ways of running a society.

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        • Hey Arb – feeling most unbloggy and haven’t been here hardly at all the last few days. But I want to add to your comment the question we should always be asking- What is a government for? I think it answers itself. (hint: I’m pretty sure the answer isn’t “to concentrate wealth and power in the hands of the few.)

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          • I get that way too, its like the internet is all of sudden particularly boring and there just isn’t anything to write about. I usually head over to to icanhazcheezeburger and look at cute kitty pictures. 🙂 It’s never a waste of time looking at teh kittehz :>

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        • Or do you like the “ME FIRST” attitude that is so prevalent in the US

          Not at all. I simply feel that you taking my money to feed yourself isn’t the answer. I much prefer giving that money to you of my own free will.

          It reminds of a conversation that Gandalf and Saruman had about joining with Sauron.

          Gandolf and Saruman or fictional characters. Right?

          The forces that (have) are restructuring society also will not willing to share power.

          I have no issue with taking on powerful corporations or people when they are also restricting individual Liberty. But the fact that they are doing that, or MAY be doing that, doesn’t legitimize you taking mine.

          If you were able to pass a law that allowed you to come to my house with a gun to take my stuff, would you?

          equality, redistribution of wealth and altruism are all good ideas and should be priorities in society.

          By the way, I agree. But I also think that a kiss on the first date is a good idea. And holding the door for ladies. And saying thank you to the grocery bagger. And tipping your bartender and waitstaff. BUt if you were to make saying the name of the Lord in vain against the law, you would find yourself as “bankrupt” as you currently are now that you’ve legislated personal charity. If you wanna give to the needy; give. I’ll give in my own time and way.

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  2. I know you’re just saying this Moe….

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  3. But james, I am embarrassed – for my country. I’m an American, I pay taxes, I vote but ultimately my country does whatever their corporate overlords want. It may be time for an alternate to the Tea Party. To the streets! To the streets! (kidding – did that 50 years ago)

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  4. Moe, did you catch Bill Maher on the alternate Tea Party for Democrats?

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  5. We vote out trust every 4 years…then cross our fingers!

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  6. Yes, it was New Rules

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  7. susie ,

    Oh, but there is a Liberal alternative to the Tea Party . Appropriately it is in Great Britain . I don’t think they have an official name, but the Bonfire Party comes to mind .

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  8. shortbuswonderkid

    Yes Alan,
    There is a liberal alternative to the Tea Party, It is called education, not indoctrination.

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