The usual disconnect

I am watching CNN Live – they are talking to and gushing about an American mining engineer, Jeff Hart. He is the actual drill operator whose team broke through to the miners much faster than it was thought possible. They did a great job. He did a great job. He works for a company called Layne-Christianson who sent Hart to Chile to work the company’s Latin American affiliate, Geotech Boyles Brothers.

I mention this because I see that right now over at Michelle Malkin’s blog that American is ignoring Mr. Hart. (CNN is congratulating him right now.)

Apparently the disgrace is that we were supposed to be celebrating Mr. Hart in verse and song throughout, but we haven’t because he works in an industry Obama doesn’t like. Apparently.

I didn’t know there were rules.

18 responses to “The usual disconnect

  1. Perhaps Chile is demonstrating what the USA used to be. The nation prayed, waited, celebrated, and praised all involved in this rescue. We hold senate and representative witch hunts, and castigate the rescuers. Each miner has prayed together, waved their country’s flag, and hug their families. Yes, they will sue the mining company, which is tied to the government


    • Chile was remarkable indeed. This is their moment, not ours.


    • Of course the company would normally be sued. Don’t know of any country with an advanced legal system in which that wouldn’t happen. But this time, with the spotlight right on them, it would be very wise for the company to make those men very rich very quickly. And then it would be unseemly for the miners to be seen as being ungrateful.


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  3. shortbuswonderkid

    I read her blog and I’m scratching my head. I must have completely missed what Mrs. Malkin is implying. Perhaps I need to look a little shallower.


  4. I wonder how many Atheists were down in that mine for 2 months. I wonder how many Atheist families had members in that mine. I wonder how many prayers were said World Wide for the Miners and their families. I wonder if those prayers did any good.


  5. Ms. Holland,

    I don’t know if you were aware of this. Hippieprof has passed away. I visited his site and it was posted there.


    • Oh no! I have been distracted with my father’s death and his affairs and haven’t been paying any courtesy calls. What a shame. A lovely, thoughtful and caring man. He really was trying to figure stuff out. I’ll stop over there.


  6. I think you hit on the head with the miners in noting this is a story about chileans persevering under terrible conditions. Why would want to make it another opportunity to brag about how great the US is.

    If you’re good, you show it best by a little humility. I think George Bush actually suggested this in 2000 before his 9/11 transformation into Mr. Macho.


    • You’re right. This was a story about Chile, its people, its glorious moment, and it’s their story.

      Many years ago my brother and his wife lived in Santiago. He was studying at the University of Santiago (it’s the oldest University in the Western Hemisphere!) They had to flee the country, leaving everything behind, when Allende was assassinated and Pinochet’s people began rounding people up.


  7. I do not know all of the details, but from my understanding the President of Chile was not shy about accepting help from all over the world. Basically getting the best available resources to deal with a problem that to that point was unprecedented in his Country. In other words he had an emergency that was beyond the technical expertise of himself and those on site.

    He brought in experts from all over the world and got the bureaucracy out of the way. The results speak for themselves.

    The contrast with the way President Obama handled the Gulf oil spill also speaks for itself . The BP spill was similar in that the solution was not within the experience of those in charge.


  8. Ms. Holland,

    Come on. That is not what I do here, you either. We bash each others leaders. How about disproving my thesis. My point is leadership. Every Mayor, Governor, Prime Minister, and President has crisis’s that they must manage. Some come on gradually or have happened in the past so there are already plans of attack on the shelf. All the leader has to do is pick one and adapt it to the current situation.

    Our current unemployment situation is one where President Obama has many guides from the last 100 years to consult. From the Great Depression, to Jimmy Carter-Ronald Reagan, to Bill Clinton-George W. Bush, there are plenty of examples of what was tried and failed or what was tried and succeeded.

    Then there are catastrophes where there are no tried and true solutions from the past. Examples would be Pearl Harbor, 911, the Chile mine collapse, and of course the BP oil spill. Those in charge had to wing it.

    You guys are always comparing your guy to George W. Bush. I am merely comparing him to a leader currently in power. I expect that I am early in this type of idea. You should get used to coming up with counter arguments.

    It is election season you know. Besides I did not besmirch Chile.


    • Alan: I think you misread me. I may bash some Republicans (more likely though, to mock the silly ones), but I think I reserve most of my fire for the media (or I try).

      [You should get used to coming up with counter arguments.] Now this is nonsense. You ignore the many long and thoughtful arguments with which I’ve responded to your comments. After which you too often come back with ‘prove it’.

      That being said, I do welcome your voice here and this is not meant to chase you away. I am not Ben – don’t think I’ve ever insulted you. And by all means stand up for your party – or your ‘guy’ whoever that may be at present – but don’t make blanket assumptions about my beliefs based on whatever you’re picking up out there in right wing media.

      I stand corrected re Chile. You did not besmirch them. As for the ‘no atheists in fox holes’ comment. Yeah, of course. But I am reminded of someone who upon hearing that one miner came out and proclaimed thanks to Jesus for saving them, commented “sure, but first Jesus tried to kill them.”


    • By the way, speaking of your old friend Ben – he has a post up right now decrying the tepid leadership in the Democratic party.


  9. Ms. Holland,

    I am grateful you have not thrown me off your site. That said, I am as partisan as ever. You are perhaps getting more of my fire lately. I really miss hippieprof. You both are very similar in your outlook and style. With him gone I really have lost someone to bounce off my ideas. With what you’ve dealt with in the recent past I am amazed how active you are.

    As far as our mutual friend, I am aware of everything he posts. I just choose not to play by his rules.

    I cannot believe how comatose the debates are. Where is the passion? Unless everyone has decided the results are baked in to the midterms and are just holding their fire for now. I can only seem to get into a brawl with our friends up in the great white north over religion.


    • Ah – you just reminded me to go visit The Arborist! I did drop over there to tell her about the prof, but have’t been back since.

      I have noticed the lack of passion too and it saddens me greatly. Politicians – leaders of all stripes – once they are in office they feed on the energy of the people they lead. That can result in good or bad things of course, but it’s the world beyond them that fuels their own passion.

      But either that’s changd and once in office they stop caring altogether what the people are striving for and dedicate themselves – maybe innocently at first – to pleasing those whose funding will assure their re-election. Or the people themselves have devolved into caricatures of political passion. It’s as though no one is actually reaching – it’s as though we’re only trying to slap down the hands of the other side. We end up going in no direction at all, just bouncing around trying to stay on top.

      And sometimes we savage anyone who steps off script no matter how valuable thier opinions might be.

      Either way – and I personally believe it’s both – it’s ugly and it depresses the passion we both like to see. And I fear this state of affairs.

      Our media – or at least radio and tv – make it worse by either being utterly partisan themselves (FOX and MSNBC and talk radio), or by being inept and just doing an awful job – like CNN and the networks.

      The energy seems to be here, online. The new voices – not the tired old ones repeating hte tired old slogans. Of course, we both can point to dozens of sites that only add fuel to the fire, but I think there are far more that bring something to the discussion.

      We’re pretty far down the pecking order, but as long as we talk (and learn from each other – and I mean all the commenters here) maybe we get better at insisting on a bit more useful tone from our politicians.

      In any case, I detected a compliment, one which I will cherish.


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