The Gipper got it (sometimes)

Between errands and pool and chores and some reading, I have managed some Sunday morning news shows and some time cruising around the intertubes.

Sure! I raised taxes when it was the right thing to do!

Vocally opposed to extending the Bush tax cuts for the richest two percent of us?

Alan Greenspan, who this morning said we need to ‘let them expire’.

David Stockman (the Reagan guy), who has an entire op-ed in The NY Times today, wherein this old time conservative even goes so far as to say “Mr. McConnell’s stand puts the lie to the Republican pretense that its new monetarist and supply-side doctrines are rooted in its traditional financial philosophy”

Just sayin’.

8 responses to “The Gipper got it (sometimes)

  1. Funny thing when an argument get completely stuck – without any context. Cut cut yes yes, but to what level?

    Greenspan has the new meme right:
    Higher taxes will grow the economy.
    (Given a bankrupt and looted middle/working-class and public finances).
    UK gets it, Clinton got it ’93. It works.

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    • But the Dems aren’t doing any kind of a job selling it – hell, they aren’t even calling for higher taxes beyond sunseting hte Bush cuts.

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      • Greensp. had another nice one at MTP: calling bush/reagan economics for “disastrous” policies – at the end of the day. Talk about remorse.

        But maybe money has grabbed too much power over three decades – and government has become rotten too far into the core. Then we are Rome, or like all fallen empires. Any way to transfer all the stolen wealth back to the state and people? Me thinks not.

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        • Only one hope, but I don’t see how we get there . . . public funding of elections.

          Otherwise, we hope future generations have hte talent to pick up the pieces.

          (I’m depressed tonight.)

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  2. Ms. Holland,

    How can you possibly be depressed? For 18 months Democrats have ruled America with more raw political than any Party in my lifetime.

    We are the ones who have the right to be depressed. We had to stand by helpless while you guys ramrodded your policies through Congress . Now that every thing you guys have done has turned to crap, telling you ‘ we told you so ‘ is of no condolence.

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    • I’m depressed because after 8 years of Bush’s blatant bowing to corporate (not national) interest, I hoped for better from a Dem administration.

      I don’t fear Republicans or conservatives; I fear stateless corporate power. I fear the new breed of pols who buy their elections with unheard of wealth. I fear an election process where the one with the most money wins. I fear that the people who are supposed to be governing and doing hte business of hte people, spend half hteir time fund raising, which increases hteir debt to corporations.

      And I don’t mean the guy who has 6 clothing stores in my area and I don’t mean my car dealer or the people who run my phone company. They’re good businesses and they employ in US and reinvest their profits in the US. And so their interests and the country’s interests align somewhat, no matter how much they complain about taxes.

      And Alan, as to ‘ramrodding through congress”, as they say, “Elections have consequences.” The people elected these people. For now.

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  3. Ms. Holland,

    I will call you willfully and woefully uninformed. Believe it or not I do not blindly accept what my Conservative masters seek to pour into my skull . I do believe that you too blindly accept what your influencers pour into your Kool ade cup.

    ” I don’t fear Republicans or conservatives; I fear stateless corporate power. I fear the new breed of pols who buy their elections with unheard of wealth. I fear an election process where the one with the most money wins. I fear that the people who are supposed to be governing and doing hte business of hte people, spend half hteir time fund raising, which increases hteir debt to corporations. ”

    You have all of that now . General Electric is the Democrats Haliburton . GE supports Democrats through it’s puppet ‘news’ Politboro MSNBC. It then uses this influence to get Government contracts for it’s jet plane engines . To his credit Obama has tried to kill the GE F-35 engine as did Bush. Look it up.

    This is one example of the crony capitalism GE engages in . It has many businesses and gets many subsidies for say it’s green businesses. Oh, I did not mention how GE Capital got bailed out along with all of the other evil banks.

    When Obama had his Brown Shirts protesting Salaries and Bonuses at bailed out Banks, GE was shielded from public outrage. I wonder why ? I’m sure Olbermann and Madow could have taken a salary cut over at the TV network to help pay for the bailout .

    My point in this tirade is that other evil American Companies are only seeking a level playing field in competing with Crony Capitalists who have media outlets.

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  4. [My point in this tirade is that other evil American Companies are only seeking a level playing field in competing with Crony Capitalists who have media outlets]

    Honestly Alan, if you think GE’s pissant presence in media even matters to them . . . defense contracts is where they make their money.

    You say GE is the Dem’s Halliburton? Dems and GOP take care of GE AND Halliburton. That’s the problem. We can both pick out a bit here and there to make it look like there’s partisan alignments. But there aren’t. They are only aligned as I said before with their own best interest and screw the country if necessary.

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